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    Wanderer's Weaponry

    The sky blazes, a burnt orange, the color of scorched earth
    Framed by cascades of numbers like lightning at Thor's birth
    This wait is torture, the wind's whisper a dull monotony
    Mocking me, a lone soldier pursuing his personal prophesy
    For three days and what seems a thousand years I've stood as guardian
    Dispatching Godless, heartless men, each day I rise and start again
    And every day is a test, but with each ray I feel blessed
    Despite this cavalcade of crusaders who put my blade to the test
    But these rats are just foreshadows of the big cheese
    A tyrant who took glee in his misdeeds and sick schemes
    A warrior king the rumors say; abomination, civilized barbarian
    Who sent many a brave soul to pay the Reaper's ferrymen
    None were buried when he left survivors weeping in their chains
    And old maids, enraged, enslaved, sweeping up the brains

    The blossom leaves breathe tranquility; a comforting illusion
    That's just the program that produced them, electronic prostitution
    The hollow thuds of footsteps as he paces, the beat of drums on the march
    The approach of Howe's retinue; they're coming at dark
    At dusk he sees the spark of torches floating out in the mire

    "So the evil heart approaches..."


    With gloats of broken empires
    As the crickets raise a chorus, the antagonist calls a halt
    His twisted smile, as sharp as hatred, the wound which caught the salt

    "Whose this bastard who blocks my path?"

    His toady's chuckles like cries of pond life

    "A beggar, a merchant, a bandit?"

    Well, he got that one right
    My sword rings, sings a pure note as it's drawn from the holster
    Quicksilver razor, made to, leave crimson pouring from soldiers
    With savage pride I stride forward, justice about to dance
    Elation at his wide eyes as I glide through his trusted confidants
    The dying sun paints the blood black; graffiti by a psychopath
    Leaving this glorified thug stumbling back from righteous wrath
    Fleeing down the dimly lighted path, but my feet are given wings
    An unnatural speed which exceeds that of normal living things
    I pull the fiend to his knees, touched the sword to his skin

    "Any last words?"


    "Hell eternal is your reward for this sin,
    Without me, my daughter perishes, my enemies will take her
    Rape her, cut her throat and strip her estate bare
    Kill me and be damned..."


    With a heavy heart I pushed the blade through his back
    And dropped the cursed weapon as the program faded to black


    Reality returns with a gasp and glaring lights, I sit up in the chair
    To find my crewmate's standing, staring right at the digital compere
    Alex, he clacks the keyboard with the air of a maestro

    "Simulation over! What did you think?"

    "I think you might know."

    "Yeah, the daughter part was fucked up, but we're playing a ruthless game."


    Electronic warfare against machines who would plainly do the same
    Howe was just a pale reflection of the slavery we faced
    A former honest man made to be a snake, whose bravery was fake
    And so I understood the morale of the tale he was telling me
    Was strength of mind to bend the rules is the Wanderer's Weaponry




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    Re: sacred Scriptures Season 15 Week 4 "Dual Topics": Judge Mentill vs Nahlidge

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    Let the green paint the trees, and yellow color the sun
    The red can be the blood we bleed, please just don't let it run
    Let her colors flow free, spur of the moment brush strokes
    Painting pictures of new love, old friends and crushed hopes


    Dreams are for pre-teens, the most reckless of the bunch
    They climb to the highest ledge with a death wish, then they jump
    Not afraid of what's to come, eyes closed and ears open
    Some listen when she speaks, others just go through the motions
    Yet she molds them, fixing any flaws on their canvas
    Getting them ready for a world that can be so demanding
    Some are left to roam, many alluring children left stranded
    We bailed, because the outcome they warrant is outstanding

    Let the green paint us some money, the yellow we wish was gold
    The red can be the blood of the children we've sold
    Auctioned off to the highest bid, she's lost without her kids
    Since they've been gone, Mother Nature hasn't talked to me one bit


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    At first look it's hard to think this would be as close as it was for me just based on line length alone. And I'm in no way penalizing nahlidge because I loved the piece and not a line was wasted. It actually would've probably played to your advantage considering how near-perfect it was. If you opponent wouldn't have made such a compelling drop. Judge, I've never heard you so this may be nothin new to anyone else but I love your flow dude. And you pair it well with excellent word selection which highlights yet doesn't over use and extensive vocabulary. Your story telling was great. And as much as I liked how your imagery set the scene that's an area where nahlidge totally blew me away. Like I said close battle but I just can't get past feeling like I got more of that flow and vocab I liked from judge just based on the length of his piece. It allowed him room to make more of an impact with the swerve thrown at the end. Nahlidge had a killer ending too and is actually more the type of writer I'd gravitate to. Feel like you May have constructed the better story with a longer drop but in the end that was the difference maker when it came to a comparison between the two

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    Re: sacred Scriptures Season 15 Week 4 "Dual Topics": Judge Mentill vs Nahlidge

    Quote Originally Posted by Nahlidge View Post
    Let the green paint the trees, and yellow color the sun
    The red can be the blood we bleed, please just don't let it run
    Let her colors flow free, spur of the moment brush strokes
    Painting pictures of new love, old friends and crushed hopes


    I like the picture you paint here. The usage of colors from the photo is a nice touch, and it's almost like we're having someone brush stroke the picture with what their envisioned intention of what it was in the first place. A flowing life stream of multiple colors in which we are all conjoined in memories of happy, beauty, pain, anger; good shit right here.

    Dreams are for pre-teens, the most reckless of the bunch
    They climb to the highest ledge with a death wish, then they jump
    Not afraid of what's to come, eyes closed and ears open
    Some listen when she speaks, others just go through the motions
    Yet she molds them, fixing any flaws on their canvas
    Getting them ready for a world that can be so demanding
    Some are left to roam, many alluring children left stranded
    We bailed, because the outcome they warrant is outstanding

    'She'. I feel like this refers to a mother or a mother figure. Sometimes we listen to mom, sometimes we're like hell fucking no we're going to jump from this high cliff like a bunch of idiots because it's fun. Lol. Molds us, helps mend our wounds from the scratches and beatings we take from life as though to keep us ready for the things to come. We are armored by our experiences and that helps us traverse new worlds. Some children don't have any of this. And they're left to roam. Kind of a sad sentiment I'm getting from that. Beautifully tragic.

    Let the green paint us some money, the yellow we wish was gold
    The red can be the blood of the children we've sold
    Auctioned off to the highest bid, she's lost without her kids
    Since they've been gone, Mother Nature hasn't talked to me one bit


    This lost soul feeling I'm getting. Now I'm looking at that 'Language of the Lost' and it's fitting. Some of us, we sacrifice children for money. Or better yet, we sacrifice our child inside for dollars and things we wish were gold. In the process, we lose ourselves. Lose our laughter and joy. Lost in this sad world where we can't hear Mother Nature's voice.
    Language Of The Lost
    Simple, short, concise. The material is powerful. Fits the picture. Your flow is solid, rhyme scheme true. I can already tell I'm about to have a hard time voting for a winner in this battle. I admire your skillful working in a shorter amount of lines than many others.


    Quote Originally Posted by Judge Mentill View Post


    Wanderer's Weaponry

    The sky blazes, a burnt orange, the color of scorched earth
    Framed by cascades of numbers like lightning at Thor's birth
    This wait is torture, the wind's whisper a dull monotony
    Mocking me, a lone soldier pursuing his personal prophesy
    For three days and what seems a thousand years I've stood as guardian
    Dispatching Godless, heartless men, each day I rise and start again
    And every day is a test, but with each ray I feel blessed
    Despite this cavalcade of crusaders who put my blade to the test
    But these rats are just foreshadows of the big cheese
    A tyrant who took glee in his misdeeds and sick schemes
    A warrior king the rumors say; abomination, civilized barbarian
    Who sent many a brave soul to pay the Reaper's ferrymen
    None were buried when he left survivors weeping in their chains
    And old maids, enraged, enslaved, sweeping up the brains

    Sweet, first person to take one of the images I provided. And I'm more than glad to get a bit of a samurai tale because what the hell else were you going to do with it?! Lol. If you say you're rusty and getting into the swing of things again, I say watch out once you do. This to me seems like a step in the right direction on the story telling and descriptive point of view. Also had a better flow/rhyme scheme from your zombie piece in my opinion. Some things might be drawn out only leading to a simple one word rhyme BUT the imagery is great. So it's kind of a give and take there. If one day you get multis and internals with complexity and depth matching visuals. Goodbye everybody, Mentill's got this shit. But I like this story so far of a crusading warrior of justice dispatching bad men.

    The blossom leaves breathe tranquility; a comforting illusion
    That's just the program that produced them, electronic prostitution
    The hollow thuds of footsteps as he paces, the beat of drums on the march
    The approach of Howe's retinue; they're coming at dark
    At dusk he sees the spark of torches floating out in the mire

    "So the evil heart approaches..."


    Blossom leaves. I love the imagery of cherry blossoms, they're just fucking beautiful. Like the comfort you give us. 'Breathe tranquility' is a cool personification of the leaves. And the hint of the ending here was nice. Keeps the story flowing and sets us up fro the big confrontation with that dialogue line.

    With gloats of broken empires
    As the crickets raise a chorus, the antagonist calls a halt
    His twisted smile, as sharp as hatred, the wound which caught the salt

    Gloats of broken empires. Very nice. An arrogant an with a heart full of the self and his conquering exploits.

    "Whose this bastard who blocks my path?"

    His toady's chuckles like cries of pond life

    "A beggar, a merchant, a bandit?"

    Mocking the samurai, very bad choice. Toady chuckles gives us a good sound. Though, to me, we do lose a bit of flow and rhyme here. Maybe it's a good chance for us to breathe and sift off to another scheme, so I don't know how to particularly judge this shift as whole.

    Well, he got that one right
    My sword rings, sings a pure note as it's drawn from the holster
    Quicksilver razor, made to, leave crimson pouring from soldiers
    With savage pride I stride forward, justice about to dance
    Elation at his wide eyes as I glide through his trusted confidants
    The dying sun paints the blood black; graffiti by a psychopath
    Leaving this glorified thug stumbling back from righteous wrath
    Fleeing down the dimly lighted path, but my feet are given wings
    An unnatural speed which exceeds that of normal living things
    I pull the fiend to his knees, touched the sword to his skin

    "Any last words?"


    Glorified thug has no chance against the master of the sword. Cutting down men here and there with simple lightning fast swings. Savage pride is a good way to describe the warrior because it kind of mirrors him with the glorified thug. He has an arrogance, a gloat of his broken empires while the warrior has a savage pride in his murderous work.

    "Hell eternal is your reward for this sin,
    Without me, my daughter perishes, my enemies will take her
    Rape her, cut her throat and strip her estate bare
    Kill me and be damned..."


    With a heavy heart I pushed the blade through his back
    And dropped the cursed weapon as the program faded to black

    Great fucking twist. Killing for justice, murder for justice, there are still consequences; not all is good and green upon the stroke of the deathly blade. There is not only the bloody mess left behind of the victim, but the aftershock to others linked to him; and the regretful stings will slice deep into the carrier of the blade.

    Reality returns with a gasp and glaring lights, I sit up in the chair
    To find my crewmate's standing, staring right at the digital compere
    Alex, he clacks the keyboard with the air of a maestro

    "Simulation over! What did you think?"

    "I think you might know."

    "Yeah, the daughter part was fucked up, but we're playing a ruthless game."


    I'm intrigued by this. Matrix-esque in its way. I don't know the reference you might be thinking. It's Assassin's Creed, part Sword Art Online, a whole bunch of shit.

    Electronic warfare against machines who would plainly do the same
    Howe was just a pale reflection of the slavery we faced
    A former honest man made to be a snake, whose bravery was fake
    And so I understood the morale of the tale he was telling me
    Was strength of mind to bend the rules is the Wanderer's Weaponry

    Locked in a war where only the ruthless will win. See beyond the rules of mercy and compassion. Strength of mind to do what is needed to be done. Flow of the rhymes wasn't particularly fantastic down here, but the conceptual strokes were dope. Do everything necessary for victory.

    I feel Nahlidge had a slightly better flow. But you win in your conceptual aspects. The story-telling is fantastic and digs a few layers deeper than him on that end of the scale even though he says a lot in few words. Really good work.
    To me, Nahlidge had the slicker and tighter verse. Lots to say with fewer words. However, Mentill still hit his flow with the rhyme scheme strong at particular points. And, to me his concept went higher and deeper. The visuals were fantastic, the story had its complexities and an interesting cast. This is a razor thin margin, but I'm voting for Mentill.
    “Those whom life does not cure death will. The world is quite ruthless in selecting between the dream and the reality, even where we will not. Between the wish and the thing the world lies waiting.”

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    Re: sacred Scriptures Season 15 Week 4 "Dual Topics": Judge Mentill vs Nahlidge

    Nah

    I love how you pack so much into the smallest of drops. Never taking away quality you condense emotions and descriptions to adeptly depict the imagery of the topic. This one was no different. Playing off of the vibrancy you gave us that "pay attention" aspect making me analyze the picture. Drawing these stories from pics in this manner highlights the initial bearing of gifts in your writing. This was pared down from your usual wording as it was smooth and simple but I thought that this was done on purpose. There are things in your writing where if you don't pay attention you'll miss the grandeur of it all. Nice...


    JM I can say that you bring up some dope storytelling. I had this image of Samurai Jack when reading this. Classical Japanese take on it like it was lore from that time period. But more on a Morpheus tip with the integration of technology. Even like you are taking the role of the Oracle talking of adventures of this character. Your wording and technicality was spot on and deftly supported the topics and the movement of the drop. I also love that you gave it space for the topics to grow in nature. Dope as well...

    Hard choice because of Nah's integrated drop verses JM wonderful storytelling leaves me to vote for JM


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    Re: sacred Scriptures Season 15 Week 4 "Dual Topics": Judge Mentill vs Nahlidge

    I don't have a whole ton of time to go into too much depth today unfortunately, but I will try.

    Judge, man, this was awesome. You progressively step it up every week and this was probably your best work this season yet. You painted the picture perfectly in the first few bars, really setting the tone of the story. Really dope overall with the poetical storytelling and it was really fluent. Top it off with a hugely creative twist at the end, and I was thoroughly entertained.

    Favorite Lines:

    "Reality returns with a gasp and glaring lights, I sit up in the chair
    To find my crewmate's standing, staring right at the digital compere
    Alex, he clacks the keyboard with the air of a maestro

    "Simulation over! What did you think?"

    "I think you might know." "

    This is where it really comes together. Very few flaws in your piece man, I enjoyed it a lot. Nice work!

    Nahlidge, man, this was some incredibly strong work as well. What I absolutely love about it is the effectiveness of the piece within it's short length. Some of the other voters also touch on how incredibly strong this is, definitely highlighting the "quality over quantity". There is absolutely no shortage of quality here.

    Favorite Lines:

    "Let the green paint us some money, the yellow we wish was gold
    The red can be the blood of the children we've sold
    Auctioned off to the highest bid, she's lost without her kids
    Since they've been gone, Mother Nature hasn't talked to me one bit"

    SUCH a powerful close. The entire human race can relate to this. Very compelling stuff, and you go against the grain to what is almost becoming a common thing within the format. Good job as well man.

    Haha such a hard battle to decide. On one hand, you have Judge's piece, which a crazy narrative and poetical piece all on it's own, deep with meaning touched with a hugely creative ending. Nahlidge's piece is a publishable poem all on it's own, having huge meaning and great effect with a much shorter scope.

    But the big question is here, is it "quality vs quantity", when Judge's has both? My only actual complaint of the battle was the lack of length of Nahlidge's piece, which is not really a complaint at all, because I enjoyed the quick "grab and go" ability of his piece. At the same time, it's far more applicable to a poem, which why is it is strong, but in a "text topical rap" format, Judge's piece stands as an epic story with great meaning and a twist at the end.

    Great reads by both guys, good work.

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